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32 entries found in trilema for 'exam taking' :

dorion_road: python is then not available to meaningful examination because it has been exam taking and pretending to be ready (e.g. usg.mit now uses it instead of scheme), rather than actually making itself ready for human use.
mp_en_viaje: they'd like to be ready, see. they just... aren't. and because people are perverse, this tends to manifest rather as exam taking than actual improvement. they don't become any ready-er, they just become adept at pretending they are.
dorion_road: trinque you've been highlighted on a couple different tmsr os threads: bvt is curious about what you have to say on the extent to which the bootstrapping/package management/development tools are a source of bloat in Cuntoo.
jfw: MP's affirmation of it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 14:50:04 dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.
dorion_road: bvt What is the status of the last vpatch for the RNG series?
dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/11/yet-more-thoughts-about-tmsr-os-os-making-exam-taking/ << bvt's backtrace -- Yet more thoughts about TMSR OS: OS-Making Exam-Taking
mp_en_viaje: the whole "i just want to" item is just an artefact of this same problem ; examtaking is just a manifestation of the same behaviour. the principal-agent problem is the same damned thing. the brokenness of domestic arrangements in the us flow from the very simple "it
asciilifeform: aka 'exam taking'
mircea_popescu: taking individual such examples and declaring "i interpret ~this~ particuylar case of 'while(cops willing to larp) kill()' as somethingentirely else!!!" isn't gonna do much.
mircea_popescu: taking the evident and less fraught example of phuctor -- yes, "tel you what, ima dake djb results and apply!", genius. but "let's actually divide some numbers" absolutely spade, and it is this latter that yielded.
mircea_popescu: to put the matter into proper formalization : the old world, of mechanical contraptions that could be physically debugged, was relatively simple and moreover in certain senses and on some dimensions very strictly constrained. consequently it was possible to build exam-taking rulebooks that allowed a large population of morons to build up, and "work", passibly well, as church wardens, ship righters, what have you.
asciilifeform: superficially it seems possible to cut apart 'i'ma build fleet of merchant ships and sail to venice' from konsoomer-credit . but i suspect there's a nonremovable 'exam taking' component.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, think : paying for tits resulted, before your very eyes, in ever increasing levels of exam taking. yes ? you noticed this, yourself, i said nothing, you complained about it.
mircea_popescu: the empire of exam taking.
a111: 12 results for "exam taking", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=exam%20taking
asciilifeform: !#s exam taking
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 02:39 mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The
mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The
trinque: then perhaps I'm wrong. I'm trying to present a problem to you by way of examples and it's not taking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they just like it for the usual exam-taking reasons, it's possibly the least different from english thing out there.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317465 << i'd add a third, which is "the insistence on the trivial case". there's a fundamental tension at work here, because we call it "exam taking", but bear it in mind that the presence of exam takers is not a flaw in the population, but a failure of the system!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian has it. it's mostly used to denote taking the bus w/o a ticket / going to exam with a cheating mind.
apeloyee: there was in the old pastes, for example, one procedure FZ_ShiftLeft_O taking 5 arguments, how did you choose thier order?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, to put things in readily meaningful perspective : you going "oh shit, we can use this bit i dug up out of bernstein to improve phuctor speed" is 100% what a PRIME example of such "sourced tech" would have been. that the soviets'd have paid for and the whole project involved would be decorated and congratulated after taking however long, 18 months to do it.
mircea_popescu: and in other obscura nobody can possibly care about, helen rappaport is a fine example indeed of the "new intellectual". television starlet without work, ended up taking a job for an "academic publisher" in her 40s, once she finally understood ~nobody cares to see her. within a decade she had absorbed all the "wiswom" and "knowleshee" that'd fit, and she was writing "books" and emanating "scholarship" of her own.
mircea_popescu: what fucking foss. there is no foss. microsoft is the natural structure of ustards and everyone taking after them ; which is to see in a hurry to see results and in no particular mood to examine the quality thereof.
asciilifeform: trinque: naggum expounded on the difference between the 2 basic types of program (and program-writer) - the 'exam-taking', 'solved problem!11 i'm done!' and 'reusable, readable, for the ages'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i suggest taking my buildroot configs as example

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