#ossasepia Logs for 21 Apr 2020

April 23rd, 2020
diana_coman: goes to read cruciform's adventure with covid [16:27]
diana_coman: cruciform: you know, croydon (probably all london, in fairness) sounds - as usual - worse, really; as I even documented, it was never that sort of problem around here about food, huh. [16:39]
diana_coman: anyways, congrats on publishing it on time! how did the writing go/ [16:39]
cruciform: diana_coman, slower than expected (as I'm finding with the gambling article) - there's a kind of resistance pushing back from the blank page: http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/#selection-59.24-59.125 [16:42]
cruciform: http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/19/the-soap-rush-and-the-toilet-roll-bubble/ there's something uniquely grim about grey English winters [16:44]
diana_coman: cruciform: that blank page resistance is real, yes; it doesn't quite go fully away either but it's less bothersome with practice (and having stuff to write about) [16:48]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-23 12:26:50 ossabot: (trilema) 2020-01-23 mircea_popescu: being smart and having interesting work are the only cure to writer's block yet found or ever liable to be known [16:48]
diana_coman: and it was spring!!111 lolz [16:48]
diana_coman: in fairness, I should take some fresh photos with all this perfectly blue sky and shining sun, too [16:49]
cruciform: and lowered hambeast density :) [16:50]
cruciform: I'm looking forward to... looking back on these articles; it's really helpful to be able to refer to one's past self [16:51]
diana_coman: heh, it's even better than that - it's ~countryside style almost; tbh I'm in quite close-to-countryside area anyway, but now with almost no cars and very little noise, all birds and everything else is taking over; I won't complain of it either. [16:52]
diana_coman: cruciform: that is true; and moreover, stuff you write once tends to turn out useful later on anyway (in ways you can't predict now); just stick with it. [16:53]
cruciform: diana_coman, Oh, yes! I wrote an article on reasons for dumping my girlfriend in January - referring back to it has saved me the disaster of getting back in touch [16:54]
diana_coman: ahahah; where did you publish that? [16:54]
cruciform: it's currently unpublished; I might be too bashful at present to publicise it [16:55]
jfw: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/23/ossasepia-logs-for-20-Apr-2020#1024912 - thanks diana_coman for bringing it up, and bvt's approach has quite grown on me. Content-addressable referencing, even if imprecise, would be pretty great compared to depending on an also-imprecise and changing timeline. [16:55]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-20 18:47:08 diana_coman: thank you jfw, trinque, bvt for weighing in on this; I'll revisit the gossipd documents too and think of it some more but so far bvt's idea seems quite fitting to me and I can't so far see any problem with it either. [16:55]
diana_coman: lol @bashful; I'll end up publishing that time when I had to tell the guys they are neither exactly 7 nor dwarves and I'm no Snow White anyway. [16:57]
cruciform: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/23/ossasepia-logs-for-21-Apr-2020#1024924 and this is reminding me of my need to move outta London - I was just about to before the lockdown kicked in, though I might just be using that as an excuse to delay my move at this point [16:57]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-21 16:52:00 diana_coman: heh, it's even better than that - it's ~countryside style almost; tbh I'm in quite close-to-countryside area anyway, but now with almost no cars and very little noise, all birds and everything else is taking over; I won't complain of it either. [16:57]
diana_coman: jfw: I'm quite convinced it's one of those things where "precision" of the sort attempted with linenumbers is about as idiotic as it can get; it's not precise, nor can it be precise nor is there any real *need* for it to be precise really; yes, different clients might hear different lines in different order - so what of it? [16:59]
diana_coman: cruciform: where were you looking to move to? [16:59]
cruciform: Bath is first on the list, though I'll probably check out York, too [16:59]
diana_coman: aha, further away; Bath seemed rather grim to me but I can't say I tried all that hard to not-find-it-grim, lol. [17:00]
cruciform: Really? What didn't you like about it? [17:01]
diana_coman: cruciform: I only visited it so it's not like I have the full files on it; but ...there was ~nothing I could find of interest, had this air of "it was something, once upon a time" [17:03]
diana_coman: then again, in fairness, I could apply that to quite a lot of places, lol [17:03]
cruciform: lol, was about to say: sounds like England in general [17:04]
diana_coman: (and now I realise I wrote of Cardiff but not of Bath, huh) [17:04]
cruciform: do you have any recommendations? [17:04]
diana_coman: even of Bristol actually but I did like Bristol better at least [17:04]
diana_coman: cruciform: what are you after? (and then again - it's you the local!!) [17:04]
cruciform: you're probably better travelled than I - I rarely leave the M25; I like university towns with nice architecture and cafes [17:05]
jfw: diana_coman: bitcoin comes to mind as something where order very much matters, though understood that's not the problem at hand, and even there we see hash-based rather than precise sequence based referencing [17:06]
diana_coman: cruciform: well, for nice cafes, I'm afraid the *only* place where they have that is...Austria! lolz [17:06]
cruciform: aha! I've been meaning to visit Vienna; loved Prague, which I'm told is somewhat similar [17:07]
diana_coman: hm, nice cafes in ...the UK?? good god, where have you seen such wonder? [17:07]
cruciform: well, nice *enough* ! [17:07]
diana_coman: I suppose some of those patisserie valerie might sort of kind of qualify at times, but ...well, they are quite continental, lol [17:07]
diana_coman: jfw: it's not that order doesn't matter; it's the precision at that sort of level the trouble; and yeah, it was re multi-way chat; basically gossip indeed; [17:09]
cruciform: diana_coman, I'm curious - why have you chosen England of all places to reside? [17:09]
diana_coman: fwiw I did revist the gossipd documents and discussions - there is "time" as field indeed but it's even specifically said that yeah, up to clients how they handle mismatches/differences because ofc they can happen; in a word - sanity. [17:10]
jfw: pretty much has to be time-according-to-what-clock I reckon [17:11]
jfw: though the sun gives a pretty reliable & objective low-resolution source! [17:12]
diana_coman: cruciform: because of such a combination of factors that I'm stuck picking one each time I get that question, lol; and I could swear I answered it at least a couple of other times in the log but couldn't find it now! [17:13]
diana_coman: jfw: ahaha, logger should use sundial! [17:13]
jfw: goes to mount a lux meter on the roof and run a stratum-0 NTP server off it [17:15]
jfw: ah drat, that assumes They haven't lied to me about my longitude! [17:16]
diana_coman: cruciform: I suppose I could say in short that I loved the French from a distance too much to be able to stand the current them for longer than 6 months, I had admired too much the Austrians that are there no more to stand living among the remains only, I found the Italians too Romanian and so on [17:18]
diana_coman: jfw: they always lie about the longitude!! [17:19]
jfw: If only I had a real-time channel to someone near the meridian to correlate solar observations. [17:19]
trinque: diana_coman: heh, at this rate the next tolerable place will be a space station in 2538. [17:21]
cruciform: diana_coman, so, the English are the least depressingly degenerate European civilisation? [17:21]
diana_coman: trinque: for better or for worse I have those who keep convincing me every time to NOT go to the woods! [17:22]
trinque: plenty of great ranchland throughout texas still [17:22]
trinque: and proximate to the cities too [17:22]
diana_coman: cruciform: heh, now in what sense are they ...ahem, european? lolz; but realise, the above is a matter of my own attachments in the end; basically the English were still to me foreign enough so that I am detached enough, familiar enough so that I can at least think (possibly entirely without any real base) that I understand any of it. [17:24]
diana_coman: trinque: the thing with woods is that in such case, I'm either spoiled for choice if I look at all the globe or otherwise I'll just go back to those mountains I used to roam as a kid and I still know them in detail, know their mushrooms and their bugs and their plants and all; what do I care of the rest anyway, if it's the woods. [17:25]
diana_coman: but yeah, at least so far I kind of anchored myself very well in not-woods; or so it seems. [17:27]
trinque: I'm just doing both, city place and shopping for a place for guns and bonfires [17:27]
cruciform: diana_coman, why would one want to be detached (enough) from one's surroundings? [17:28]
diana_coman: well, here I'm on the outskirts-towards-countryside of a town that is extremely well connected (it's a sort of hub re trains and biggish airports around); while I didn't know it initially, it turned out that I'm also quite close to the "posh countryside" for whatever that does; but in any case - lakes and the sort of piddly woods that this flattish land has are on my doorstep really, yes, can't complain of that. [17:29]
diana_coman: cruciform: it depends what you consider there as part of those surroundings. [17:30]
trinque: cruciform: being able to buy things you need, without having to hear your termite neighbors fuck. [17:30]
trinque: in my case. [17:30]
diana_coman: notes that both neighbours are 90+ so no noise at all ! [17:31]
trinque: gotta fuck softly when the bones are all porous! [17:31]
diana_coman: but anyway, yeah, not the sort of thing where one hears anything either. [17:31]
diana_coman: neah, it's a proper brick house and not wall-connected either. [17:32]
diana_coman: trinque: I kind of had that sort of setup in Italy really - great nature (and weather!!) and otherwise yes, had where to buy stuff without any trouble; the thing was that after a few wonderful years of that, I'd rather have moved to honest woods - because yes, can buy food and cloths and books; can't go though to a show worth anything unless going 4 hours and crossing the border sort of thing. [17:35]
diana_coman: cruciform: btw, that was part of "why England" or rather "why close to London" - to be able to go to a theatre play, the opera, a musical, a show, *something other than apple orchards and hiking*, lolz. [17:37]
cruciform: diana_coman, makes sense: close, but not TOO close! [17:38]
diana_coman: exactly so; and btw, it's faster to get to central London from Reading than from some parts of London! [17:40]
cruciform: ah, yea - I've been on that fast line to Maidenhead, iirc; on the topic of theatre, the newly revamped Fairfield Halls in Croydon isn't half bad - saw Tchaikovsky's 5th Symphony there last month [17:42]
diana_coman: cruciform: the "fast line" they keep advertising is a slower line really, lol; there's just direct train reading-paddington, takes half hour or a bit less even. [17:44]
diana_coman: anyways, there probably won't be much remaining after all this, I can't quite see where/how/on what would all the theatres survive anyway. [17:46]
cruciform: diana_coman, along the lines of http://trilema.com/2020/in-a-transparent-attempt-by-the-man-to-distract-attention-from-the-internal-problems-of-the-republic-by-focusing-it-instead-on-the-lulz-in-africa/#comment-148138 ? [17:50]
diana_coman: cruciform: pretty much. [17:51]
cruciform: doesn't MP's recent writing scupper the YH project? Particularly when he talks about males not being able to produce meaningful work? [17:52]
diana_coman: cruciform: here's that question already answered in the logs; apparently you need to read even more recent logs! [17:54]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-26 16:33:35 jfw: diana_coman: been sitting on the following question a bit but as there's no gain in silence I'll have it out: if you've had a chance to consider it yet, how do you interpret http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-148004 and specifically 'take my advice and do not ever indulge in the activity depicted. It is infinitely better to shoot any "smart" bois you run into on the spot than to [17:54]
diana_coman: follow the thread there. [17:54]
cruciform: diana_coman, will do, thanks; and yes - still need to read the logs! [17:54]