#ossasepia Logs for 19 Oct 2019

April 20th, 2020
diana_coman: asciilifeform: confirmed, thank you very much! [03:20]
diana_coman: jfw: lol; I'll put it down as Sunday-deadline and lump it all for reading with the younghands.club on Monday [04:06]
diana_coman: whaack: footnotes plugin working on younghands.club now; it was there but not activated; as part of testing I've updated your post so it has proper footnotes now. [04:17]
diana_coman: whaack: use your initials in the titles of *all* your posts there though. [04:18]
whaack: diana_coman: Thanks for activating footnotes, I added my initials. [08:19]
whaack: is off to CR [08:49]
diana_coman: safe travels [08:55]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ok! and when you get chance -- test what sorta bw you get there -- atm you have entire pipe to yourself. [12:29]
dorion: hi diana_coman dorion-mode.com lives at 198.199.70.97 , i've started the draft of my initial article and aim to have it published by Sunday deadline. my approach at this point is to write in chronological order to document my ideological/intellectual development and decisions, which equates to fives articles to bring us to the present. [12:56]
dorion: future articles that expand on the various nodes will back cite this initial series. [12:58]
dorion: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-18-Oct-2019#1006906 << fwiw, I spent a good chunk of my early 20s listening/reading ol' stefbot. my takeaway is he takes 'know thy self' and act with courage and integrity quite seriously. he focuses on encouraging people to apply their stated values to their personal relationships first and foremost, hence also the focus on childhood. "is the woman [13:12]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 13:32:54 thimbronion: diana_coman: I don't think he did too much of that. For example, frequently told women complaining about their husbands that the problem lies largely with them. Each call starts with him getting to know the person, going over their childhood. Everything proceeds from there. [13:12]
dorion: complaining about her husband because he actually sucks? or is it because it's cheaper for her to walk away from him than confront her sucky parents?" if the latter, it's obviously harder because she built up an internal mechanism from a young age, that's likely now subconsious, to repress the confrontation. [13:12]
dorion: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-18-Oct-2019#1006888 << to expand here on my understanding of the process for evoking the want: 1) determine what value you have to bring / problem you can solve, 2) establish your ideal client profile (not all clients are +ev, 'strategic superiority', 3) develop questions from 1+2 to qualify prospects, [13:29]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 13:16:41 diana_coman: so then what conflict? the whole point is exactly to engage with them so that they *want* to do the sensible thing; if they are at all capable of being sensible, sure, but the attempt has to be done to even determine that. [13:29]
dorion: 4) if they are ideal client, their answers to your questions result in them voiceing they have a problem you can solve and it's a priority for them to solve it by working with you. 5) manage the process of closing the deal. [13:29]
dorion: easier said than done, like any skill takes practice and I'm not claiming to be a master of it. [13:31]
diana_coman: dorion: go ahead with the writing; at this stage there isn't much I can say on plans-only. [14:22]
dorion: diana_coman understood, will do, thank you. [14:50]
whaack: aaand greetings from Guanacaste [21:01]
thimbronion: whaack: Aloha [22:42]
whaack: thimbronion: ayo. did you get to Hawaii in one piece? [22:45]
thimbronion: whaack: very smooth voyage, thanks. [22:46]
thimbronion: whaack: Will be curious about Guanacaste. I'm headed there next month. [22:46]
whaack: great hit me up when you're here if you want to meet for a cerveza [22:47]
thimbronion: I shall! [22:48]
whaack: any chance you're going to surf in Hawaii? [22:49]
thimbronion: I might take lessons again. Probably more snorkeling though. [22:51]
thimbronion: whaack: are you a surfer? [22:54]
whaack: yes, i surfed ~everyday while living in CR for a year [22:55]
whaack: i'm sure Hawaii has some beginner friendly spots, but from my understanding most of the surf is over reef [22:56]
thimbronion: it was last time I tried. [22:57]
whaack: lol! that is an extreme way to learn to surf [22:58]
whaack: your faults will be exposed with gashes [22:58]
thimbronion: hm. it was long ago. I remember it being shallow for a long way out, with something not sand on the floor. Anyway, had an instructor right there. [23:00]
whaack: well save surfing for guanacaste then. we have sand beaches with swell protection, and here you can discuss a trilema article as you wait between waves [23:03]
thimbronion: consider it saved. [23:05]
whaack: :) enjoy hawaii, i'm off to bed [23:06]