April 19th, 2020
moopet: |
Aloha |
[11:46] |
diana_coman: |
hello moopet |
[11:46] |
diana_coman: |
what brings you here? |
[11:46] |
moopet: |
read a comment on dev.to about TMSR and V and hasn't a clue what they are |
[11:47] |
moopet: |
and since I failed to find anything on the internets I thought I'd come straight to you |
[11:47] |
diana_coman: |
heh, good call really |
[11:47] |
diana_coman: |
V is a versioning system like hm, no other really ; you can see it in action here for instance : |
[11:47] |
diana_coman: |
http://btcbase.org/patches |
[11:48] |
diana_coman: |
e.g http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt&search= is the V tree for my project EuCrypt |
[11:48] |
moopet: |
so are signers people who have approved a commit? |
[11:50] |
moopet: |
and what is TMSR? |
[11:50] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: not "approved" heh; signers are people who are willing to stake their reputation on the contents of that code essentially |
[11:50] |
diana_coman: |
there is no "approval" - only responsibility |
[11:51] |
diana_coman: |
the point is that code is valuable for you only to the extent that you trust it |
[11:51] |
diana_coman: |
and the direct trust comes from "I read and understood it and I'm fine to use it" |
[11:51] |
moopet: |
how is someone responsible for something if they haven't given their approval? |
[11:52] |
diana_coman: |
the less direct trust may come also from "X whom I know to be honest and capable has signed this patch " |
[11:52] |
moopet: |
I'm not sure I'd understand unless I actually gave it a go, I guess |
[11:52] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: re approval I guess it hinges on your notion of "approval" |
[11:52] |
diana_coman: |
the point is: anyone can add a vpatch to an existing v-tree |
[11:53] |
diana_coman: |
in this sense there is no need for "approval" from anybody else |
[11:53] |
diana_coman: |
however, just adding a vpatch won't do much for those who don't know you and therefore can't trust you/your code |
[11:53] |
asciilifeform: |
moopet, diana_coman : http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is imho to this day the best guide to 'v' |
[11:54] |
diana_coman: |
thanks asciilifeform , I was digging for that! |
[11:54] |
asciilifeform: |
np |
[11:54] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: the link provided by asciilifeform is the canonical introduction to using V as it were |
[11:54] |
moopet: |
will give it a read later |
[11:55] |
moopet: |
thanks |
[11:55] |
diana_coman: |
at any rate, if you want to learn and practice, you can do way worse than implementing your own V |
[11:55] |
asciilifeform: |
moopet: it's quite possibly world's simplest versionatron. to the point that virtually all of the current users, wrote own implementation (or use old one tailored to own taste) |
[11:56] |
diana_coman: |
TMSR is The Most Serene Republic; you can read the log of its public forum for instance at http://btcbase.org/log/ |
[11:56] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: re TMSR you can have a look on trilema.com as well e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/ |
[11:59] |
moopet: |
this is quite hard going |
[12:06] |
moopet: |
I have to look up every other word |
[12:06] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: is that bad or good in your books? |
[12:06] |
moopet: |
it's very... subgenious |
[12:06] |
diana_coman: |
(and...which of the above links, lol) |
[12:07] |
moopet: |
all of them |
[12:07] |
moopet: |
I decided to read them all at once because big brain |
[12:07] |
diana_coman: |
moopet: what's "subgenious"? |
[12:07] |
diana_coman: |
heh, take it easy, it's not a sprint; more of a very deep rabbit hole |
[12:07] |
moopet: |
'it's me mis-spelling subgenius |
[12:08] |
diana_coman: |
but feel free to come up for air and ask in here at any time |
[12:08] |
moopet: |
will pobably be back! |
[12:08] |
moopet: |
but it's nearly time to go home, so bye. Thanks for talking! |
[12:08] |
diana_coman: |
hang around as you like |
[12:08] |
diana_coman: |
np, see you later |
[12:08] |
diana_coman: |
moopet aka Ben Sinclair, it would seem |
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