#ossasepia Logs for 02 Apr 2020

April 21st, 2020
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-31#1023420 << this is a point. K, I'll get that article out first and we can go from there [00:35]
ericbot: Logged on 2020-03-31 07:31:37 diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-30-Mar-2020#1023426 - lobbes, how are those guys in Brasil in the end anyway? there were some reviews/articles you were supposedly writing on shinjiru and on those... [00:35]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 23:09:28 lobbes: diana_coman: I also wanted to ask you: assuming that I get the mp-wp bot logger thing to the point where you'd want to try it for #ossasepia, would you want to host it on one of your existing boxes or would you want a fresh one? [00:35]
lobbes: speaking of articles, I'm going to have to bump my monthly review/plan to this weekend. Saltmine work heating up this week. [00:35]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-01-Apr-2020#1023557 - bvt fixed that in his work (it uses patches/.. so tab-completable) but at any rate, still easier to fix it (or even workaround it if must) than to go full x11, huh. [04:51]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-01 22:35:36 jfw: Another case I catch myself X11 copy/pasting: typing out full vpatch file names (including .vpatch suffix but not patches/ prefix, thus not tab-completable) for v.pl press [04:51]
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-02-Apr-2020#1023561 - you know, *this* is how it predictably goes in reality each time when "oh, it's better to NOT stick to weekly/shorter interval"; but up to you really. [04:52]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-02 00:35:45 lobbes: speaking of articles, I'm going to have to bump my monthly review/plan to this weekend. Saltmine work heating up this week. [04:52]
jfw: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-02-Apr-2020#1023562 - I don't disagree, at least for a certain view of "easier", but isn't that a comparison of unlike things: the cost or ease of a specific solution for one case with that of a general tool like pasting (which might be more of a workaround or even numbing agent than a solution) [11:45]
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-02 04:51:07 diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-01-Apr-2020#1023557 - bvt fixed that in his work (it uses patches/.. so tab-completable) but at any rate, still easier to fix it (or even workaround it if must) than to go full x11, huh. [11:45]
jfw: * ? [11:47]
diana_coman: jfw: mhm? I was comparing your stated options, not some generics like that, lol; and yes, the pasting in that case sounds more like a workaround than a solution. [15:47]
diana_coman: !1 list [16:22]
diana_coman: hm, spyked is there a way to get from feedbot the list of feeds for the chan rather than my own? [16:22]
spyked: diana_coman, I can grab it for you. one sec [16:34]
diana_coman: spyked: can I have in #o the article feeds for: younghands.club; ossasepia.com; bingology.net; dorion-mode.com; fixpoint.welshcomputing.com; krankendenken.com; ztkfg.com; trilema.com; thewhet.net; bimbo.club; ave1.org; bvt-trace.net; thetarpit.org [16:35]
diana_coman: spyked: lol, meanwhile I just made the full list [16:35]
spyked: oh. ok. as it is, it only has younghands and ossasepia [16:35]
diana_coman: and trinque.org [16:35]
diana_coman: ofc I forgot one, how else, argh. [16:36]
spyked: will make sure tomorrow morning that all of the feeds above are pointed to #ossasepia [16:37]
diana_coman: spyked: thank you! [16:37]
jfw: diana_coman: seems there's some confusion here with options and generics and comparisons. Not sure if we should drop it or delve. [16:40]
diana_coman: jfw: I don't think there's all that much to it to delve really, no worries. [16:40]
jfw: cool. [16:40]
whaack: trinque: Do you know how long freenode will keep the connection open if you do not send a pong in response to their ping? Am I correct in understanding that freenode will eventually drop a client if it does not perform the ping/pong routine? [17:16]
jfw: whaack: you could telnet / netcat to chat.freenode.net 6667 and find out [17:18]
whaack: jfw: thank you [17:20]
jfw: of course, anything will eventually drop, and especially on freenode [17:21]
whaack: hehe [17:21]
trinque: whaack: jfw has it on both [18:10]
whaack: freenode dropped me in short order (~45 seconds). I'm not sure if I was dropped from the lack of ping/pong or from the lack of identifying with a nick. I don't know how to send an ident message (or any other irc protocol message) through telnet, is it worth figuring out how to do this? [18:40]
jfw: you type it and hit enter, lol [18:45]
jfw: didn't you read through cl-irc too? [18:45]
jfw: I'll give the further hint that you need a NICK and USER message to identify. [18:54]
whaack: jfw: thanks. I have barely ever used telnet and wasn't confident I could interact with the server by sending commands by typing in / enter. And I also did not know off the top of my head the routine for identifying (with the NICK and USER message). I read through cl-irc but a while ago and there are many parts that I did not fully digest. [19:00]
jfw: whaack: telnet is fun, you can do a number of protocols by hand including smtp and http, really anything oriented around "plain text" lines, depending on the cr/lf style. I highly doubt any server's going to ban your IP for sending invalid commands if that's the worry. [19:07]
whaack: jfw: cool, i'll add it to the list of command line tools to learn about / play with [19:09]