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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hey, imagine all the idle posturing going on in every tiny social group. kids used to be hackers, after being secret agents, after being you know.
mircea_popescu: mod6 what of ?
PeterL: !!v 8625F2F43A521F78E34FD7D88C65784ACC911E3323A94F9DF8EEFCD5092C7F90
deedbot: PeterL unrated kakobrekla.
ReadErr: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780645 << you'd be amazed at what else it dun support. ultra-cut-down item.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 01:20 mircea_popescu: and considering what happens in response to curl -v -X GET -H "range: bytes=1-8" www.loper-os.org (full page dump) we can add asciilifeform / nfs to the list of "does not support ranges"
asciilifeform: but i suspect phf is right, and ranged-GET evaporated ~everywhere while asciilifeform slept in his cave.
asciilifeform: fwiw
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780711 << sorta the fundamental braindamage of html ( and all 'plaintextist' protocols, period ) -- that they lack 'and HERE is EXACTLY how many bytes will follow'
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 01:48 mircea_popescu: but anyway -- you can even now make a server return ~infinite headers if you wish.
asciilifeform: listener is stuck waiting for his memory, and patience, to run out
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780738 << why is it that ben_vulpes gets the nosy deliverymen, and asciilifeform not!111
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 04:52 ben_vulpes: guy delivering servers today wanted to know what i was doing with em; "well let's see, install some software and then rack 'em in a datacenter, what else does one do with servers?" "no but like are you mining bro?" "haha funny. don't you have something for me to sign?"
asciilifeform: nobody ever asks asciilifeform 'what is the 100kg of crate'.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << lol complete with pedo brock
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 14:29 ReadErr: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
asciilifeform: hilarious buncha idjits, 'let's all move to 1 usg reservation and feed the waterfall there while awaiting cokemachine'
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9405.0, vol: 21008.47772549 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9445.9, vol: 60871.97237583 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9390.0, vol: 9260.56420663 | Volume-weighted last average: 9430.79250653
asciilifeform: !!reputation ReadErr
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZUuG8/?raw=true
phf: http://paste.lisp.org << "Due to continued abuse, this service has been discontinued"
asciilifeform: ahahahaha
asciilifeform: whose was it anyway
phf: i don't know
phf: i think mp had a conversation with someone from #lisp, and someone was responding as if in authority, but you never know
asciilifeform: info pg mentions a Erik Enge and a Brian Mastenbrook
asciilifeform: i have nfi who they were/are
asciilifeform: or nm, those were authors of the proggy
asciilifeform: not necessarily operators of the paste www
asciilifeform: eh well, another 'allcomers' item bites the dust.
phf: well, we don't really have non-allcomers web systems ourselves. the only example from past is mp's retired token system
asciilifeform: the items that only work from in-chan are close enuff
asciilifeform: e.g. pehbot
phf: i suppose it hinges on definition of "web systems". trinque's static thing that only takes input from channel i suppose qualifies and is exception to what i'm saying
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780757 << all they're good for.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 15:09 asciilifeform: hilarious buncha idjits, 'let's all move to 1 usg reservation and feed the waterfall there while awaiting cokemachine'
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << "Mr. Pierce walked around the tree and said prayers for Puertopia, holding a rusted wrench he had picked up in the territory. He kissed an old man's feet. He blessed a crystal in the water, as they all watched. He played the Chaplin speech to everyone and to the tree, Mr. Nygard said."
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 14:29 ReadErr: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
mircea_popescu: so for the last day i've been working on this bogota megapost. hopefully i fucking finish it today jesus.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/03/pricing-information-fun-with-numbers/ << Bingo Blog - Pricing Information: Fun With Numbers
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 what of ? << was just laughin hard at ben's delivery guy.
mircea_popescu: :p
BingoBoingo: In other Pais Pobre: "The idea that makes tPanel unique compared to other web hosting control panels is that the software does not require any root/shell access to function. Instead, it’s more of a manager for people who have ambitions to start a web host on their shared web hosting plan." - http://www.gnutoolbox.com/tpanel/
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
BingoBoingo: Because, you know... The "shared" word is in there.
phf: mircea_popescu: alright, i cleared my schedule for that general period, i'll look at flights again tonight and we can just go with whatever works out best financially
mircea_popescu: works.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780773 << ftr this is how I'm currently designing "!Qarchive-bulk-download" to work. Bot will check with deedbot for a key registered, then verify good wot standing in my L1. No allcomers allowed!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 16:37 asciilifeform: the items that only work from in-chan are close enuff
mircea_popescu: works.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/ << Trilema - Bogota, a mixed bag
mircea_popescu: in other sads, we discover that the trilema pics sum up to almost 3gb these days ;/
mod6: wow, nice pics from bogota tho!
mircea_popescu: yeah, how about happy gold guy
mod6: yeah, the raw emeralds too
mircea_popescu: in other lulzy lulz, https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7ujeoz/i_wonder_how_long_it_will_take_for_the_other_sub/
mircea_popescu: what happened, anyway ? that got the rats so rattled
mircea_popescu: mod6 sadly i didn't have the time to check out the emeralds museum also, apparently this exists.
mod6: oh, a whole one for just that huh. kinda neat.
mircea_popescu: afaik for most of history most emeralds came from them.
mircea_popescu: apparently they also have a jewelry shop right in the museum. and a simulated mine. it was the next item on the list, but there's only so much you can cram into four days of fucking & drinking.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you said you had to go gcc 6 -> 5 -> 4, right?
mod6: yeah, makes sense. maybe something for next time 'eh
mircea_popescu: i dun really think i want to go back.
mod6: fair enough.
mod6: from the higher up shots of the city, it is quite big isn't it.
mod6: wow, the plateau is @ 8660 ft above sea level too. didn't realize that.
mircea_popescu: yeah. the place where i took those pics was 3200 meters
mircea_popescu: city itself is like 2700
mircea_popescu: (3200 m ~= 10.5 k feet)
mircea_popescu: and i tell you, it winds you. there were some inclines/stairs up there i had to take in two portions.
mod6: oh sure. if you're not used to that type of elevation, can take a lot out of you indeed.
mircea_popescu: wtf is edge browser anyway
ben_vulpes: totally not a relabeled IE
mircea_popescu: oh
mircea_popescu: i thought it's the browser you get if you can't afford orgasm.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at python balls, http://78.media.tumblr.com/c0c8daa0e7ab2cfc32acc93af097347d/tumblr_ngfwxd1G6h1qega1vo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779624 : $ cat trilema.txt | grep -c '"HEAD ' > 5936. this is about 9 hours' worth of log. turns out mp-wp uses head to make sure pictures uploaded correctly ; turns out a lot of economical browsers use head on pics on a page prior to loading them, to check if they already have them in the cache.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 17:03 asciilifeform: i dun even propose to kill HEAD because it is complicated to implement -- it isn't, as i understand. but because 'nobody but pinoys ever seemed to issue a HEAD at asciilifeform's www, in decade+'
mircea_popescu: apparently if filename matches.
asciilifeform: i guess i needed a www with moar gas-modem-powered readers, to find this out.
asciilifeform still somewhere in first 20% of mircea_popescu's photovoyage
mircea_popescu: seems, finally, various "fight linkrot" mechanisms use head to check if item linked sitll exists.
mircea_popescu: conceivably they nuke the local link if head fails or somesuch.
asciilifeform: seems like stuck with GET, POST, HEAD . ( still waiting to hear a defense of PUT )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's pretty humongous, i suppose i just wrote a magazine by myself.
asciilifeform: currently reading the vintage ro docz.
asciilifeform: the marvel is that, picture american 'declassified' turds from same period, recall how they look like chessboards
mircea_popescu: aha!
asciilifeform: with what every other word even TODAY censored
mircea_popescu: however, these are a) from commie times so nobody much cares and b) the most benign of nothingness, what press releases were being shuttled. im not even sure they were ciphered originally.
asciilifeform: usg only recently released various minutiae from 1945, and ~even it~ with gaps
asciilifeform: they dun seem to have a 'nobody cares' mode
mircea_popescu: yes, but usg harbors hallucinations of continuity.
asciilifeform: right.
mircea_popescu: anyway, kinda why i included them. afaik there exists nowhere online such a thing, for the inquiring mind that might wish to know how ro declassified documents look in the first place.
mircea_popescu: tho there's lots of them floating about in rosphere, as there was a lot of wranglking about political policing and so on.
asciilifeform enjoys embassies. doesn't actually know anyone who works in'em, however; but where asciilifeform lives they every year have a festival where 'look how great is our goatfuckistan, and how mighty its embassy, have some liquor, ' etc
mircea_popescu: so while pretty much every adult romanian saw at least one (often enough in the shape of, hey, do you know this guy you've been frioends for 30 years with, since chiuldhood ? well he was trying to fuck your wife and get you imprisoned), apparently there's a NOFORN clause implicit or something, 0 internets.
asciilifeform: the ro-themed wikilick ( mircea_popescu-powered, even, in the early burst iirc ) also counts, neh
mircea_popescu: well depends. sure, counts,. but i meant as the physical photocopy as such
mircea_popescu: i dunno, minor point i guess
mircea_popescu: i like to see actual items.
asciilifeform: dunno if i personally could tell actual-1974-shoemaker's-own-typewriter from artful fake typed on the timis museum one
asciilifeform: but possibly mircea_popescu could
mircea_popescu: i can, definitely.
asciilifeform: curious how
mircea_popescu: including the iliterate signatures.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thousand little clues, like the quality of the tape, the worn-ness of the letterheads, types of typing mistakes (eg, misspelling were unpermitted, missing space uniting words sometimes tolerated, many such tiny details)
mircea_popescu: if you spend enough time with anything you end up with an idea of how it goes, be it wine or typewriter era paperwork.
asciilifeform: ah this much is not surprising, i presumed it under 'artful fake'
asciilifeform: naturally you'd use worn ribbon, omit occasional space + never misspelling
mircea_popescu: infinitely artful fake is definitionally undetectable neh.
asciilifeform: tru
mircea_popescu: (maria groza, often mentioned there, deputy foreign minister at the time, even made it in "women's movement antologies" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: any relation to petru ?
mircea_popescu: not afaik. not that uncommon a name.
asciilifeform: the hruscheba in the last pic is a winner. loox almost as if it came with 0 windows originally, and only the brave souls who chopped out their own, nao have one or two
mircea_popescu: you know ?
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bogota-101.jpg << holyfuq cruelty to glyphs
asciilifeform: wat did cyrillic ever do to these folx
mircea_popescu: lel
asciilifeform: ( prolly wants to be 'что у трезвого на уме то у пьяного на языке' )
mircea_popescu: something like that
mircea_popescu: i thought you'd appreciate.
asciilifeform finally eaten article
asciilifeform: loox like a perfectly-serviceable bananistan
asciilifeform: ( or rather, i dun notice any substantial diff in flavour vs mircea_popescu's cr pics )
mircea_popescu: the people are a lot closer to the argentinian (pompous, inept, idle) than the tico (eager, voluble, extrovert) ; there's better night life but the 550 mm barometer is unpleasant ; much larger town but virtually no wild life ; arguably better food in restaurants, but i do prefer my slavegirls cooking anyway. and so on.
asciilifeform: barometer one gets used to, neh
asciilifeform: if you were to camp out there for month+
mircea_popescu: so used he gets an aneurism at 55.
mircea_popescu: it's not a healthy environment.
mircea_popescu: and the gray in the altitude pics, that's smog.
asciilifeform doesn't know if he's ever even been to a 'healthy environment' for more than coupla days stretch
mircea_popescu: i make a point of it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. perfectly serviceable bananistan, yes. i still prefer cr. there's a certain advantage to being able to drive to the beach in a coupla hours any time.
asciilifeform can picture this.
mircea_popescu: add to that the dismal (and ridiculously overpriced) real estate, and the inept regulations (instead of forbidding poor people / locals from owning cars privately, they came up with the batshit insane nonsense of banning plates by whether they're opdd or even on alternate days. and this isn't an accident, this is structurally how they think.)
mircea_popescu: and they have bicycle lanes, which i find intolerable.
asciilifeform: on sidewalks, like timis?!
mircea_popescu: sometimes.
asciilifeform: are there actual bicyclists , or mostly imaginary like in ro
mircea_popescu: there's some. in fairness i wasn't there long enough to say ; but the very idea annoys me.
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9094.99, vol: 15650.81040742 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9077.3, vol: 50688.71557358 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9071.2, vol: 7929.87426483 | Volume-weighted last average: 9080.37651068
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1153 / 9080.37651068
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1153 / 9080.37651068 = 0.12697711363002231
mircea_popescu: !!pay phf 0.12697711
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z9meQ/?raw=true
phf: i don't have a wallet setup with that thing, i'll book pay tomorrow. i'm beat right now and don't want to fat finger something
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ^ also for your book.
mircea_popescu: phf with deedbot ? you don't need one, it's automatic.
phf: oh, it just stays there until a withdraw?
mircea_popescu: everyone else : he leaves on the 13th, deadline to send gear his way say 5 days prior or something like that
mircea_popescu: phf aha.
phf: jeez, that's some future technology
mircea_popescu: trinque made it.
mircea_popescu: phf reserve anyway, can pay within 24 hours
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> and they have bicycle lanes, which i find intolerable. << not only lanes; it was claimed by at least one local that on sundays all principal roads are closed to cars --bikes only.
mod6: *whew* New kitchen sink faucet: Installed.
trinque: just got some new drapes up myself.
trinque can pull the withdraw lever any time this evening, no problem.
mod6: that was last weekend for me. and a new coat of paint through 35% of the house.
trinque: hanbot: reminds me of cancerous fags in portland agitating for "car-free downtown"
trinque: mod6: nice
mod6: hopefully done with home-projects for a bit nao
asciilifeform: old-time su had ~ideal cars/m^2 .
asciilifeform: or at the very least, not far.
phf: i spent about half hour trying to crimp rj45. i completely lost the skill, nor do i, turns out, have the right tools. you've not lived unless you've tried to crimp each individual contact with pliers
ben_vulpes: i emerged @world three times and started working through hanon's piano exercises!
ben_vulpes: trinque: shit has gotten intolerably shrill. "vehicular homicide!"
asciilifeform: phf: at least you didnt try to solder'em. at one time asciilifeform fell to that depth.
mod6: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bogota-123.jpg << this is awesome, look how simpatico y feliz the llama is!

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