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dorion: mircea_popescu in light of never moving off linux 2.x series, it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from 4.9.95 it currently sits on to 2.x.
dorion: perhaps it's not an immediate priority, but I'd like to clarify the path forward.
dorion: !!seen ave1
deedbot: 2019/11/18 15:31:56 <ave1> spyked, lobbes. Thx!
dorion: ave1 do you actually want to own gcc ? or do we need to move on ? ~60 days silence, with unanswered intermittent probings seems to indicate the latter, unfortunately.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1: As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-09 16:35:17 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-27#1953688 << hey ave1, how goes ? have you been following along the tmsr os thread ? I've assumed you want to continue with your gcc work and own it, is that still the case ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-27 18:40:49 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951499 << hey ave1, how goes ? has there been a delivery date set on this ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-17 12:42:50 ave1: I was genesing it, and will continue to do so. But with feedback in the loop. So, for example, gcc comes with an old STL html documentation tree, can this be dropped? (I would say yes)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956783 << well, or at the very least comment on it.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-12 12:47:24 dorion: mircea_popescu in light of never moving off linux 2.x series, it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from 4.9.95 it currently sits on to 2.x.
dorion: mircea_popescu comment on major/important changes between linux 2.x and 4.9.95 ?
mircea_popescu: you're not serious, are you ?
mircea_popescu: between 2.4 and 2.6 the principal change is how kernel modules get loaded (they were actually linked pre 2.6).
mircea_popescu: between 2 and 4 the difference simply is "2 was a linux kernel, 4 is treasonable atrocity built atop 3, which is how you say '''mike hearn''' in linux"
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Qntra's "hold if comment contains X or more links" filter has been lifted to arbitrarily high number so these gems stop getting held in the moderation line.
dorion: mircea_popescu re seriousness, I know it'd be a helluva lot, but I don't imagine porting his work from 4.9.95 to 2.x isn't trivial either. I should've asked, comment how ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i confess i am vaguely concerned by this for myself ; apparently i can't sit down to write anything even half-serious without dozen+ references by now.
mircea_popescu: dorion, of course it's trivial, he doesn't use any of the pestilent doohickeys. he could port it to most 1series also.
mircea_popescu: this is in no small part due to how alf thinks, he's remarkably exceptional at this side of things.
dorion: mircea_popescu I see, nice. today I learned.
bvt: mircea_popescu: moving to 2.6 kernel will be interesting experience wrt. newer hardware. 2.6.32 was one of the better-patched ones, could try to use that. otoh, the machine i am writing from requires 2.6.38 minimum for full hardware.
bvt: *full hardware support
bvt: porting rng to 2.6 kernel should indeed be not too hard, the only thing i may need adaptation is kfifo api (iirc it's api changed at some point, which may break the code)
dorion: bvt wrt to newer hardware, did you see get a dozen or two alternatives, let the rest wither ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am inclined to attribute this in part to your use of technology to dive into what seems to be historically uncharted territory as far as extreme literacy goes.
bvt: dorion: in this case, picking 2.6 will not be a problem, of course
mircea_popescu: bvt, i dunno man, commodity servers to this day come on 2.6, random sample turned out 100%
mircea_popescu: unless by newer hardware you mean who knows what random home luser dongle.
mircea_popescu: but the cost to replace that is minimal, i mean... oh, so your video card doesn't work no mo ? awww, splurge on 50 bux, which as per latest j-lo self-promotion 1hr long advertisement incomprehensibly packaged as "a movie" ain't even enough to START the moneycount.
mircea_popescu: skip trying to buy a coupla shots for whatever rando hobag at the club next time, get yourself a working peripheral [see all the hobags in history naked-er and working it more excitedly anyways].
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me how i'd actually go about computing the value-add of supporting whatever config isn't self-supporting ; but it seems indisputable it's under the cost of five second's labour. making the matter not even work considering, let alone discussing.
dorion: trinque html stripped from comment again, here's original : http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3p4J
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956798 << just the simple string "lts" makes my skin crawl
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-12 14:02:44 mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess.
trinque: thanks dorion, fixed your comments and shipped 'em out.
dorion: trinque thank you, really diggin your series.
trinque: will process all these comments and reply soon, after the next article is posted, but I'm glad to hear that these have been valuable.
trinque: also good to know that gcc >4.7.4 incurs a c++ compiler in the bootstrap process. way, way better to have reasons for where we stop than "eh, I got tired and sat down here"
trinque: seems like we're not far apart at all in our views on these things.
dorion: trinque agreed.

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